No one ever told me that we were solving the problem the wrong way.

We were improving food safety with a mobile app that was replacing clipboards.

So the executives and the buyers, it was always like, yeah, this is great, we need this, we ought to use this.

But what they weren't saying is this is actually making our life harder.

What's really encouraging about Thurman, about the leadership team,

is the idea of always trying to find more and more pain points from the customer

to keep expanding the product, to keep challenging ourselves to keep building more and more

so that we can be more impactful, more effective.

I'm Lucas Detman, I'm the BP of Strategy.

This is Monarch Surrey. I'm the founder and CEO at Therma.

This is Code Story, the podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share in the critical moments of what it takes to change in industry and build and lead.

A team that has your back.

I'm your host, Noah Labhart, and today how Monica and Lucas created a dead simple way for you to monitor and optimize your cooling system.

All this and more. On-Cote Story.

Monix Suri calls himself a jack of all trades.

He went about his career doing lots of different things and figured out most of what he didn't want to do.

He started out an academic, then went into private equity investment, then did a spend in government,

then went into law school, and finally landed in the tech world.

He grew up in Fresno and ended up back in Cali, specifically in the Bay Area, outside of tech.

He's married with a young family and a dog named espresso.

Lucas Tettman was originally born in Argentina and came to the U.S. around five years ago.

He started out his career in public affairs and politics, working at an NGO and promoting the acceleration of sustainability.

...