So in all of our conversations about opting out of systems lately here on the podcast, health is a really big component of that.

And when we're talking about the system of health and making our own choices, there's kind of a couple sides to this.

So first off, we can decide what kind of medicines, right, like what medicines are we using or not using or are we using alternative options like homeyopathy or herbs or essential oils.

So that's kind of one side of it, but the other side of it is creating this foundation of health in our families and in our own bodies.

So we're not needing those medications as much whether they are herbs or they are more traditional western options.

And I feel like the foundational health topic is kind of the less exciting one to talk about because it's little changes and little things to pay attention to.

And sometimes you don't see the massive changes right away, but that doesn't make these ideas any less crucial because what ends up happening is kind of like death by a thousand cuts where we're constantly assaulting our bodies and our immune systems with toxins and chemicals and poor sleep and junk light and lack of movement and all of this stuff.

And it kind of creates this compounding effect that results in disease down the road.

So a big part of that for me in my own journey of opting out of systems has been of course food started it, but right after that came this idea of questioning the other products in my home, like cleaners or body care products or the lotions I was using or the makeup I was using.

And there's a lot of things you can do that don't have to be complicated or expensive that can clean up all of those areas of your life. And so today I'm really excited to have Emily tubes on with me today.

I have known Emily for a very long time we've kind of been side by side in the blogging world for years and years and she's a homestead mama, but she also has a really successful organic skincare and makeup line and she knows her stuff.

So she is an incredible person to listen to if you're curious about how you can clean up this part of your home and opt out of the system of traditional chemical based skincare.

So Emily and I are going to talk about chemicals to avoid how to start shopping better why beef tallow is way better for you than you think that's like probably my favorite part of this episode and tons more so.

After you get done listening to this episode be sure you head over to tubes and co.com they have an incredible website and I know kind of depending on when you're listening to this that they're going to be having some black Friday special so I just wanted to give Emily a shout out because her stuff is amazing whether you're getting it for yourself or for Christmas stuff so here we go.

You're listening to the old fashioned on purpose podcast where ambitious people master the art of returning to their roots.

Have you found yourself disenchanted with society or wishing you could opt out of the rap race perhaps you're craving a life that's meaningful and tangible a life where you can create and produce instead of merely consume.

I'm Jill Winger best selling author and long time home center over the last 10 years I've helped thousands of families create more connection grow amazing organic food and find the ultimate fulfillment with old fashioned lifestyle and I can do the same for you now on to our episode.

Hey Emily welcome to the podcast.

Thank you so much for having me on Jill.

I am very excited for this interview we've been trying to coordinate it for a little while I think we chatted about it when we were both in Virginia at the home centers of American conference and then we've had some scheduling stuff and then here we are so I think this is going to be a great conversation.

I'm excited just to continue on your topic of opting out.

Yes it's been a very it's been a fun topic honestly to speak to speak on and then it's got a lot of people excited so I think this is going to fit very well into the theme.

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