Hi, this is Dr. Sarah Waters, author of an upcoming monograph on Lewis and Shakespeare.

You're listening to Pikes with Jack.

If the white witch could have looked a little further back into the stillness and the darkness

before time dawned, she would have read there a different incantation.

She would have known that when a willing victim who had committed no

treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, that the table would crack and death itself would

start working backwards. This is Pints for Jack, season six, episode 39, a Narnian vision of

the Atonement. After hours with Dr. Charles Talia Fero

Welcome, everyone.

Here on Pints for Jack, we're reading our way

through the works of C.S. Lewis.

And those of you who watch our YouTube channel

may have seen my recent interview with Mako Nagasawa, where we were talking

about different theories of the atonement. And this was initially prompted by my re-listening

to our episode in season one, where Lewis discussed the atonement in mere Christianity.

Well, today we've got something of a follow-up to that episode, which nicely coincides

with Narnia Month. And in this episode, I'm going to be discussing a Narnian vision of the

Atonement with its author, Dr. Charles Talia Pharaoh.

Dr. Charles Taliaferro is a philosopher specializing in theology and philosophy of religion.

He is an emeritus professor

of philosophy at St. Olaf College, a senior research fellow at the Institute for Faithful Research,

and a member of the Royal Institute of Philosophy. He is an author, co-author, editor and co-editor

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