Hi, this is Will Voss, author of The Man Who Received a Severe Mercy.

You're listening to Pints with Jack.

What we need for the moment is not so much a body of belief as a body of people familiarized with certain ideas.

If we could even effect in 1% of our readers a change over from the conception of space

to the conception of heaven, we should have made a beginning.

This is Pines with Jack, season 6, episode 26.

Heaven is for real.

Out of the Silent Planet,

chapter 22, and post script.

Welcome, everyone, here on Pines with Jack,

we're reading,

almost said weeding,

our way through the works of C.S. Lewis.

I am Matt, and I am joined by my lovely co-hosts, Father Andrew, and, well, David's a father, too, technically.

Dad, David.

There we go.

This season, we find ourselves among the stars, through the first of c s louis's science

fiction trilogy out of the silent planet and really i should say we find ourselves finishing the first

of c s louis science fiction trilogy because we have come finally to the closing pages of out of the Silent Planet. So we're going to be

discussing the final chapter and there's a twist revealed, after which we'll talk about

the Pote's script and hear from Professor Ransom himself. Now, this would be the last

episode where we choose a title. And so I chose this out of a selection

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