Welcome to Live Well Anyway. I'm your host, Mackenzie Kappa, formerly of cultivating the lovely,

and on this podcast, we focus on wellness, beauty, style, planning, and life. I feature both

fun mix of guests who I've invited,

as well as some hopefully helpful and humor solo shows centered on things I've learned in my own life.

Today on the show, we have Katie Duckett back on my partner in crime, my business partner,

literally in Patreon. We are now doing Patreon side by side together and offering all sorts of fun new content, including a behind the scenes Marco Polo group, where you basically get to be a fly on the wall to the conversations that Katie and I have back and forth about the challenges we give each other in the group and things we're working out for the business.

It is super fun, super exciting.

That is available to the Eliza level in Patreon. You can head over to patreon.com slash live well together to find out about

all the things we have going on there, including the two mini-casts that Katie and I are releasing

every single month. She is so much fun. I could not have wished for a better business partner.

But in this show, we talk about one of her specialties, which is relationship. She is so much fun. I could not have wished for a better business partner.

But in this show, we talk about one of her specialties, which is relationship, especially with our families, and how she is reformatting her years.

She actually had this moment of inspiration in the middle of a podcast episode that we were recording this summer.

And she just knew exactly how she needed to change things up up heading into what is probably going to be a difficult fall in order to change the narrative

and have a different perspective on what this fall could look like. She is so wise and she's got

so many wonderful ideas, especially in terms of this whole relational piece with our kids

and our families and our friends. And I think you guys are really going to love this episode.

But if you want even more of us, then I want to make sure, again, you know, to head over to

Patreon.com slash live well together. You can also find both of us on Instagram. You can find me

at McKenzie Kappa. That's M-A-K-E-N-Z-I-E-K-O-P-P-A, and Katie at K-D-M-Ducket with

two T. As we're getting rolling with us, I also just want to mention because we've got so many fun new things

happening, but Katie and I both have our own new newsletters on Substack.

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