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So we are going to kind of basically crack on with this week's case to be honest with you, aren't we mark?

Because there's not much that we can kind of say around this.

It's a very recent case which is unusual for seeing red. It's not something we do that often

and it's very, very recent, but we both feel like it's a really important case to discuss and actually

we kind of were talking,'t we there's kind of

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