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Please enjoy responsibly. You're not going to be. Oh, Hello and I'm Bethan.

Hello and welcome to seeing Red a true crime podcast. I'm Mark.

And I'm Bethan. Hello and thank you for joining us once again.

Before we start we just wanted to quickly invite you all to come and join us on social media

and joining any discussions of any cases that we cover.

So we'd love to have you over there and just say a little quick high to everybody that we

chat to over on social media. I'm not sure if I've told you this but I've got rid of Twitter.

I heard in your episode, yeah. Oh I feel really bad that I didn't tell you but yeah I just I've never used it I'm so

useless at using it so I don't blame you so we've come off Twitter maybe we'll go on to

Tik-Tok instead of Jesus Christ I don't think so. We are both far too old to go on Tiktok. We've had this conversation before. We are way too old. Yeah. I've realized as well that I've been writing Tiktok. T. T. I. K. or something like that it's like T I C. I. K or something like that and I was like, oh, I've definitely been writing like T. T. T. T. T. not it's not for the likes of us is it?

But Bethans right do you check us out so we have a private Facebook group where you can

discuss the cases and we go on there we discuss cases quite a lot as well and interact with

with the people on there I think we've got nearly a thousand people in that

group so it's quite a busy group and and yeah come and join us on on

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