We also had SDK engineers, people who were supposed to write those cool and fun SDKs that are supposed to go into the interpreter, into the JVM runtime, and change stuff.

I'm not sure about you, but I'm not familiar with many companies who have those kind of people, or with a clear job description for those.

So we've hired from nearby areas.

We've hired a lot of cybersecurity engineers.

We've hired some embedded engineers.

We've mostly hired people we felt were talented

and knew enough about taking stuff apart and putting it back together

to help us figure out together how do you change running code on the flight.

I'm Ran Hanovich. I am a co-founder and CTO at Rookout.

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The Rahn Hemovich is 34 years old and recently married. He and his wife enjoy traveling and eating delicious foods together and of course

taking care of their awesome dog. Although it's been a while, Leran loves to scuba dive and enjoys

a great whiskey, scotch, or fancy cocktail now and again. He's recently gotten into trying to

make them at home or seeking out the latest bar to try something new. Just over five years ago,

that Ron and his co-founder realized that every time you need to change the way you observe

or log your application, you have to fully release that application.

They applied their cybersecurity way of thinking and built a platform to enable the

instant change to logging and observability.

This is the creation story of Rookout.

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