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How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

S6, BONUS EPISODE! How to Fail: Lemn Sissay

How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

Sony Music

Society & Culture

4.79.6K Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2019

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

For this extra-special bonus episode, I'm delighted to welcome Lemn Sissay to the podcast. Lemn is a poet, author and broadcaster whose memoir, My Name Is Why, is one of the most moving I have ever read. In it, he writes about his childhood - the son of Ethiopian parents who was wrongly given up for adoption as a baby and fostered by a white, working-class family in Lancashire. At the age of 12, he was told by his adoptive family that they would be putting him in a children's home and would never contact him again. He spent the next five years in a succession of brutal institutions during which he had a mental breakdown. In these dark times, the light of his poetry began to form.It is astonishing, then, that Lemn is such a gloriously expansive interviewee. You know when people talk about good energy? Lemn has good energy by the bucketload. There is not a trace of bitterness in his demeanour, in spite of what he has been through, and he's unafraid to be vulnerable and honest, even though his early life was a succession of betrayals.He joins me to talk about his failure to belong to the family he spent his life searching for, his failure to marry or have children (Lemn is the first male guest to have chosen this as a failure, which in itself is pretty fascinating), why he gave up drinking and his failure to be the poet he wishes he could be. Along the way, we talk about the power of human resilience and what family really means. Oh, and his dislike of cauliflower.This is a deeply inspiring and humbling interview. You might want to have the tissues ready. *The How To Fail Live tour is almost over. SNIFF! There are limited tickets left for Belfast with Sinead Burke (14th November) and Gateshead (8th December). Dublin with Amy Huberman (15th November) has SOLD OUT! Thank you! These events are not recorded as podcasts so the only way to be there is to book tickets via www.faneproductions.com/howtofail* The Sunday Times Top 5 bestselling book of the podcast, How To Fail: Everything I've Ever Learned From Things Going Wrong by Elizabeth Day, is out now and is available here. To contact us, email howtofailpod@gmail.com* My Name Is Why by Lemn Sissay is out now, published by Canongate, and available to order here*This BONUS SPECIAL episode of How To Fail With Elizabeth Day is sponsored by Sceptre, publishers of The Scriptures by Phoebe Waller-Bridge. This is the complete Fleabag. Every word. Every side-eye. Every fox. Out now. Available from Waterstones, online, and all good bookshops. Social Media:Elizabeth Day @elizabdayLemn Sissay @lemnsissaySceptre Books @sceptrebooks        Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Channel 4 is the home of your next TV obsession.

0:04.6

As the UK's biggest free streaming service, they have it all, they really do, you know,

0:09.8

from classic comedy box sets to shocking reality, gripping drama and mind-bending documentaries.

0:17.1

They make content that's different from the rest, and which represents a broad cross-section

0:21.9

of society.

0:23.3

Channel 4 is the home of unfiltered entertainment.

0:26.7

It's all together different, telly, made for you.

0:30.6

And happily, for me, there's so much I always want to watch on Channel 4, whether it be

0:36.4

a bit of Made in Chelsea or the entire box set of Derry Girls, which is one of my favourite

0:41.2

programmes of all time.

0:43.1

Regular listeners will know that I grew up in Derry, and it totally reflects my experience

0:47.4

all be it through an utterly hilarious lens.

0:50.2

And there's also a three-part series that I can't wait to feast my eyes on, called

0:54.6

Dep versus Herde.

0:56.7

It unpicks the court case that so many of us watched online and saw being absolutely

1:03.6

everywhere in various comment sections, the trial between Johnny Depp and Amber Herde.

1:09.0

So this is the first place that collates all of that material in one simple format.

1:14.8

It allows you to see the story from all sides, a three-part series, Dep versus Herde, can't

1:19.6

wait to watch it.

1:21.0

And I highly recommend that you do too.

1:24.4

And I'll see you now on Channel 4.

1:31.2

This special bonus episode of How to Fail with Elizabeth Day is sponsored by Scepter,

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