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Standard of Truth

S5E39 Dead and in Hell Part 1

Standard of Truth

Dr. Gerrit Dirkmaat

Religion & Spirituality

4.9990 Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

We begin the episode with apologies to Sarah, who emailed us while in labor… again. Gerrit then sets the stage for a multi-part deep dive: Brigham Young, James K. Polk, and the Mormon Battalion with a question about the oft-repeated story that in General Conference Brigham Young announced a U.S. president “died and went to hell.” Standard of Truth Tour dates for the summer of 2027: ⁠ https://standardoftruth.com/tours Our 2026 tours are sold out, but if you would like to join us in the future here is a link to our 2027 tours ⁠ Sign up for our free monthly email that is rarely monthly: ⁠ ⁠https://standardoftruthpodcast.substack.com⁠ If you have any questions or possible topics of discussion for upcoming podcasts, please email us at: ⁠⁠questions@standardoftruthpodcast.com Rex’s Elders Quorum President’s Show Notes: 00:02:47 – General Banter 00:14:10 – Baby naming digression 00:18:46 – Listener email reading 00:23:59 – President Hinckley, and improvised remarks during a church meeting. 00:29:29 – Brigham Young and the U.S. president, question raised about which president Brigham Young referenced, opening into deeper historical analysis. 00:33:51 – Secretary of Defense texts and politics, Discussion of a Secretary of Defense text message reference, bridging to political tensions in LDS history. 00:37:55 – Brigham Young’s perception of government problems, exploration of Brigham Young’s uneasy feelings about U.S. government actions and underlying suspicions. 00:43:30 – James Polk and the Mormon Battalion, quoting Polk’s journal about calling Mormons into military service, with historical and political implications. 00:48:49 – Party politics and Mormon voters, Analysis of Democrats vs. Whigs, Mormons as consistent Democrat voters, and shifting political dynamics. 00:52:46 – Close elections and minority status, Reflection on razor-thin election margins, using comparisons to modern U.S. states like Texas. 00:55:09 – Email reading recap, Lighthearted commentary on how emails were read, with jokes about voice impressions. 00:57:46 – Figuring things out in real time, Hosts note that they essentially just “lived through” the lesson while talking—meta humor about their own podcasting style. 01:01:04 – Postmaster positions and patronage, Historical detail about the importance of postmaster appointments and thousands of federal jobs. 01:06:09 – Closing thoughts and unfinished material, Discussion of Alexander McCrae’s anger, acknowledgment that time ran out, and teasing future continuation.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Standard of Truth podcast. In this podcast, Dr. Garrett Dirk-Mott and Dr. Richard

0:08.2

Leduc explore the early history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the life

0:14.3

and teachings of the prophet Joseph Smith. They examine the original historical sources and provide

0:20.4

context for events of the past.

0:23.1

They approach the history of the church with faith, expertise, and humor.

0:37.4

Hi, welcome to another episode of the Standard of Truth podcast.

0:40.9

I'm your host, Dr. Garrett Dirkmont.

0:42.7

I am joined by my friend, Dr. Richard Ladoogh.

0:46.5

Hello, Garrett.

0:47.6

Thanks for having me back.

0:49.2

You paused a little bit there.

0:50.2

Like, were you a little worried that you wanted to, you wanted, that was a

0:55.4

pregnant pause.

0:56.6

It was a pregnant pause.

0:58.2

I, I had my glasses for a week.

1:01.2

I was, uh, rough housing with the children.

1:04.5

They fell off on the sidewalk immediately scratched.

1:07.9

Your kids are adults now.

1:10.1

Well, there was, that's why they were able to win are adults now. Well,

1:13.5

that's why they were able to win the wrestling match. Well, we got some of these major, like the really large boxing gloves, you know?

1:18.5

I see.

1:19.1

The really large ones.

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