Hello and welcome to Series 5, episode 8 of Out with Susie Ruffel. Hello, how are you?

I hope that you are having a good week whenever you're listening to this.

I'm in a really good mood today,'s Saturday the sun's shining and I'm not

gigging tonight so I'm quite excited don't get me wrong I absolutely love going

out and doing my shows but it is quite nice to have a night off, isn't it? And it's I'm going to watch the

series finale of this is us and probably cry. That's my that's my big plans this

weekend. I hope whatever you're doing you're having a good day. As ever we

received some gorgeous emails after last week's episode of Zoe Lyons went out.

It seemed that lots of you really enjoyed that conversation if you haven't listened to that one yet I

highly recommend you go back and listen to it I think she is just bloody brilliant and I

love her so I highly recommend you ever listen to one. I've got some really exciting

episodes coming up I've got them all in the can now waiting to go out for 12 this

series so I've got four more after this episode and I'm just thrilled with the ones that I've got to share with you.

I've got a couple of very exciting ones coming out.

So I look forward to you listening to them and I really hope that you enjoy them.

But today, today we have the

fantastic Joe Black who you might know from RuPaul's Drag Race me and Joe have so

much to chat about both growing up in Portsmouth, both having similar stories to some

degree and about creativity and obviously about the experience on RuPaul's Drag Race

so I know that you're going to really enjoy this

episode and I can't wait for you to hear it. But as ever, before we get into the

conversation, I share some of your emails. You can always get in touch with me. The

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