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How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

S5, Ep4 How to Fail: Francesca Segal

How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

Sony Music

Society & Culture

4.79.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2019

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

This week, my guest is the writer Francesca Segal whose recently published memoir, Mother Ship, details the birth of her twin daughters 10 weeks prematurely. Her first failure is, in Segal's own words, her failure 'to stay pregnant' and the feeling of shame that came from not having managed to provide the requisite 40-week gestation period. 'I felt I had failed at my first ever task of motherhood,' she explains. 'That my body could not be a safe space for them felt a spectacular failure.'She and her husband, Gabriel, were pitched into a nightmarish situation where they did not know whether their baby girls would survive. When they were born they weighed only 2lbs each. The girls could not do anything on their own and they suffered harrowing, life-threatening infections. Segal joins me to discuss what happened next.Even if you are not one of the 100,000 women in the UK who, every year, give birth to premature babies and even if, like me, you are not a parent at all, I promise that you will find Segal's insightful eloquence both enlightening and moving.We also talk about her failure to be a rebellious teenager, her conflicted attitude to social media and how, as a writer, she deals with the eternal nagging of her fractious internal critic. Listen, be moved and then order her wonderful book via the link below.* I am thrilled to be taking How To Fail on tour around the UK in October, sharing my failure manifesto with the help of some very special guests. These events are not recorded as podcasts so the only way to be there is to book tickets via www.faneproductions.com/howtofail* The Sunday Times Top 5 bestselling book of the podcast, How To Fail: Everything I've Ever Learned From Things Going Wrong by Elizabeth Day, is out now and is available here.*How To Fail With Elizabeth Day is hosted by Elizabeth Day, produced by Chris Sharp and Naomi Mantin and sponsored by Teatulia. To contact us, email howtofailpod@gmail.com* Francesca Segal's memoir, Mother Ship, is out now and available to order here *If you were affected by any of the issues raised in this podcast, help is available via Bliss, the charity for babies born premature or sick.* Social Media:Elizabeth Day @elizabdayFrancesca Segal @francescasegalChris Sharp @chrissharpaudioNaomi Mantin @naomimantinTeatulia @TeatuliaUK         Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:03.8

Mae, yn sicwl»ER eithar oen mwyad ysg Sh剛剛 y Kwlhf i'r fylau'r y ni yw Пер San

0:10.6

y br Starifold, ac mae grey eith Cyl– Gnyfnau, ac noeb.

0:15.2

Dr Gos ni wybodaig ffordd o gyda bodd ei ffordd ond yw sgweddolaredd Dymarel

0:18.3

ac fy wedi hwortedol meisiau rhe.

0:21.6

Becycleswaith ideg gwarchupio, ia'r cybo fail corpsesaforolau gofyi callodaeth distinguished

0:23.4

Mwy fydd ei ffordd eu [(dומaeth gwasp sw será fwy iawn ond i ffordd de torture Diane

5:22.0

flexoioli.

5:23.8

This was a life-changing experience that Seagle has written about in her stard ornally beautiful

5:29.9

new memoir Mother Ship.

5:32.2

Mother Ship tells of how she and her husband find themselves sitting vigil in the neonatal

5:36.9

intensive care unit, watching in equal parts terror and love as their tiny daughters

5:43.8

fight for their lives.

5:46.5

Seagle's diary of her daughters first 56 days pays tribute both to the other women she

5:51.3

met along the way and to the extraordinary work of the NHS.

5:56.2

As well as being sublime and tender, it also somehow manages to be funny.

6:02.2

Adam K has already called it heart wrenching, heart warming and heart felt.

6:09.6

Mother Ship is her first foray into nonfiction.

6:12.5

Seagle's debut novel The Innocence won the 2012 Costa First novel award.

6:17.3

Her second, the awkward age, cantered Nick Hornby among its admirers.

6:22.8

She always wanted to be a writer, dictating novels to an imaginary friend at the age of

6:27.7

three.

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