S5 E30: Adam Wiggins, Muse

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Noah Labhart - Startup Founder & CTO

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🗓️ 4 January 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Was from California originally, but has lived in Berlin for the last decade. Earlier in his life, he did burning man art installations and was a DJ. Now, he is a middle aged family man, so he focuses on his family, his daughter, his adorable dog and his career/software projects. His partner is also an immigrant, whom he met while in Berlin. Adam loves Berlin, and in fact, loves European cities in general, for their focus on quality of life. He mentions that in the states, there is a large amount of economic freedom but some inequality and more highs and lows to speak of. The culture in Berlin specifically is full of history, culture, and a bohemian element which is very attractive to music and art. Adam is most well known for starting Heroku, which completely simplified the way developers think, interact and use infrastructure. Post its acquisition by Salesforce, he found himself thinking about the future of computing, and started a research lab called Ink & Switch. The area they landed on was computing interfaces, and usage around screen touch. After a few prototypes, they landed on something that they though was a solid combination of desktop precision with touch screen mobility. This is the creation story of Muse. Our Sponsors: * Check out Cash App and use my code CASHAPP10 for a great deal: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/mt82fpxl #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Cash App Green, overdraft coverage, borrow, cash back offers and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. * Check out Plaud AI and use my code CODESTORY for a great deal: https://plaud.ai Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0	The whole reason we're doing this is that we think there's sort of a lack of experimentation and a lack of bigger picture thinking or more ambition around what our computing interfaces can be.
0:12.0	We had certain criteria, okay, it has to be fast, it has to be precise, but we also want it to be intimate and personal and emotive.
0:18.0	But then when we go to bring it to the MVP that you're talking about,
0:22.0	and then they go, wow, this is really weird. It just does not behave in any way that I expected.
0:28.9	So there's lots of little choices like that that fit with the values, but in many cases
0:33.6	were something that people found confusing because it doesn't work the way that other apps
0:37.6	work, which is kind of a point. I'm Adam Wiggins. I'm a partner at Muse.
0:47.7	This is Code Story, the podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share in the critical moments of what it takes to change in industry
0:57.3	and build and lead, a team that has your back.
1:02.2	I'm your host, Newell Abhart, and today how Adam Wiggins
1:06.1	dreamed up the most powerful spatial canvas for your deep thinking.
1:13.5	All this and more on Coat Story.
1:20.1	Adam Wiggins was from California originally, but has lived in Berlin for the last decade.
1:25.5	Earlier in his life, he did Burning Man Art installations and was a DJ.
1:29.3	Now, as he says, he's a middle-aged family man, so he focuses on his family, his daughter,
1:34.1	his adorable dog, and his career in software projects. His partner is also an immigrant,
1:38.5	whom he met while in Berlin. Adam loves Berlin and in fact loves European cities in general
1:43.4	for their focus on quality of life.
1:45.9	He mentions that in the States there's a large amount of economic freedom, but some
1:49.1	inequality and more highs and lows to speak of.
1:52.1	The culture in Berlin is full of history, culture, and a bohemian element, which is very
1:56.0	attractive to music and to art.
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