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The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs, LCSW

S5 E15 - It Began with Knee Pain, It Ended with a Life-Changing Paradigm Shift with Deb Malkin

The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs, LCSW

Nicole Sachs, LCSW

Alternative Health, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Health & Fitness

4.92.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Learn how to JournalSpeak ➡️ ⁠LEARN HOW:⁠  https://www.yourbreakawake.com/journalspeak⁠ In today’s episode, I sit down with Deb Malkin to explore what it truly means to reclaim your body, your agency, and your sense of safety from the inside out. Deb’s story of overcoming years of debilitating knee pain isn’t just about symptoms resolving—it’s about a paradigm shift. We talk about what happens when you stop assuming your body is broken, and instead begin listening to it, partnering with it, and seeing it as a safe place to return to. Deb learned to align with her body rather than fight it, and the result was profound physical and emotional transformation. We also dive into internalized weight stigma, body image, and the external pressures that shape how we view ourselves. Deb brings so much clarity around the harm of cultural narratives that tell us our bodies must look a certain way to be worthy or healthy. We talk about how those beliefs create nervous system activation, fear, shame, and pain—and how shifting into compassion, curiosity, and trust becomes its own form of healing. This conversation isn’t just about knee pain. It’s about liberation, empowerment, and remembering that your body is not a problem to fix—it’s home. XOOX n. 1:1 COACHING WITH TRAINED COACHES SUPERVISED DIRECTLY BY NICOLE PLEASE RATE AND REVIEW THE PODCAST HERE TO HELP OTHERS FIND IT! Producer: Lisa Eisenpresser ~~~~~ SUPPORT: 🟠 Struggling with chronic pain? Check out my Freedom From Chronic Pain course   GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/painfree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🟠  Anxiety controlling your life? Try my Freedom From an Anxious Life course  GET THE FIRST LESSON FREE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.yourbreakawake.com/anxietyfree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  🧠  Learn more about the brain science and clinical experiences in my book   MIND YOUR BODY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.yourbreakawake.com/book ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  💛  Receive support, guidance, connection, and direct access to Nicole with  MEMBERSHIP: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/membership⁠ ~~~~ THE CURE FOR CHRONIC PAIN JOIN THE CONVERSATION ON INSTAGRAM  👉   https://www.instagram.com/nicolesachslcsw⁠ SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👉   https://podfollow.com/the-cure-for-chronic-pain-with-nicole-sachs-lcsw⁠ LEARN ABOUT ANNUAL OMEGA RETREAT ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👉   https://www.yourbreakawake.com/work-with-nicole Podcast music by the beautiful and talented Danielle Furst: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@musicfurst⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to the Cure for Chronic Pain podcast with me, Nicole Sacks.

0:46.7

You are here. Hello everybody. I hope today is a good day.

0:53.9

This is Nicole and you've reached my podcast, The Cure for Chronic Pain. Welcome to it. Today we have an awesome conversation with Deb. Now, Deb is one of the

0:57.9

admins in both of my membership communities, so Heal with Nicole and Nicole Sack Support

1:04.8

Circle. And Deb Malkin is just a positive light, a really warm and empathic support, and I adore her.

1:14.6

And today we got on the pod to discuss Deb's story because she has so much wisdom.

1:21.6

You know, all of us who come to this work honestly, who have done this work through our own bodies and then use our lives

1:30.0

to carry the message forward. It's just my favorite. It's my favorite to get into their stories.

1:35.6

And Debs is no different than many. She started with knee pain and has used that experience

1:41.3

of her body and of understanding the paradigm shift that leads to a

1:46.0

different kind of alignment, which we'll talk about, to help others reclaim their bodies,

1:51.9

their agency, and find safety in the body you have whatever size it is, whatever shape it is,

1:57.8

whatever diagnosis you have. Deb really specializes in helping compassionately address internalized weight stigma and body image

2:06.6

and external challenges that can present themselves as well with people in bodies of any size or shape.

2:13.6

And we just have a great conversation about all of it her personal story and the work

2:18.8

she's doing out in the world so i'm really excited to share that with everyone today and um we're

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