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BBC sounds music radio podcasts BBC five live. How do you cope with Ellis James and John Robbins?

Hello and welcome to How do you cope with Ellis and John?

This is a series where we speak to different people about the challenges and difficulties they face throughout their lives

And what they've done to overcome them this week

We're speaking to double Olympic gold medalist James Crackerel about suffering a traumatic brain injury and how it affected his life and his recovery

But before we hear that chat, Ellis, how are you doing? How's your shame?

Not too bad, although I've had too much fun for two weeks, so I need to have less

There's no such thing as too much fun surely. I need to have less fun. I've just gone out too much

So I feel a bit guilty about it, but a lot of stuff that really didn't want to miss all happened at the same time

And it's a combination of that and finding two really great BBC visitors who my children prefer to us

So I didn't feel as guilty about going out and also because my son knows for he's much easier to explain stuff to him

And I was I had quite a kind of pious life for a couple of years where we barely went out at all

But the card on the table, John, I've got a headache

Yes, but it's okay to have a summer of fun, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah, do you know what? When you use the phrase summer of fun just then I thought, oh I feel like I did like that

I don't feel any guilt at all, summer of fun, that's what you do off like after you GCSEs and you have a summer of fun

Yeah, you've just got it, it's a reb, it's a branding issue

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