Hi, I'm Molly Wansall.

And I'm Geoffrey Wonsle.

And for the last 16 years or thereabouts, we've been having lunch every Saturday,

and often our conversation turns to murder.

Which is what prompted us to start this true crime podcast called Blood Ties.

Hi, everyone. Welcome back to the Blood Ties podcast. I'm Molly Wansall and I'm here with my father, Geoffrey Wonsall.

Hello everyone, welcome back. Thank you so much for listening. Hope you enjoy it.

If you can really enjoy some of these terrible stories.

Well, yes, I was trying to explain to someone how it's possible to do lighter true crime stories.

I think it's really a tone of voice, isn't it?

No, I mean, it's somehow, you know, some don't seem as bad as others,

even though they're all bad, like the poisoners and the old-fashioned ones.

You can kind of detach yourself from a bit more or something.

Yes, I don't know.

How's your week been?

My week has been fine, good, quieter than last week when I went to the theatre and an awful lot.

Yes.

You went to see Blythe Spirit and Bath.

I did go and see Blythe's Flirt in Bath, yeah.

Got good reviews.

Yeah, I haven't seen the play for ages.

I mean, you know, it's blithe-spirited. Yes, yeah, Madame Arcatti. She hadn't known for Saunders was a very good Madame Marquarty, actually. Yeah. It wasn't too.

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