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we've spent several weeks hearing all of the good news about how swing voters

warming up to Kamala Harris and Tim Walls. However, the polls pretty much everywhere are still way too close for comfort, and that's partly because, like Joe Biden, Kamala Harris is still relatively weak with some black and Hispanic voters.

Not all of them, not even most of them, but enough to show up in a real way in the numbers.

Harris is also coming off of a CNN interview last week and

we're coming up on a big inflection point in this race with the presidential

debate on September 10th to level set how Harris could make headway with skeptical voters with the time left in this race,

I'm turning to Benji Sarlin, Washington Bureau Chief at Semaphore.

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