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American Nightmares

S4 E5 - A Murder Trial is a Play: A Second Look

American Nightmares

Gamut Podcast Network

True Crime

4.510.3K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

This is 22 Hours: A Second Look, where we revisit our original season with host Megan Cloherty. In this episode, Megan is joined by Jack Moore and Julia Ziegler to pull back the curtain on the creation of the original season. They talk about how the show came about, how they turned their daily coverage of the Daron Wint trial into a podcast and discuss the behind the scenes decisions that formed the final product.

New episodes drop every Tuesday.


Original Episode

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Over the 22 hours the victims were taken captive and then killed, the prime suspect goes missing and his normally active Facebook account goes dark. We track Daron Wint's whereabouts during that crucial time. Also in this episode, an introduction to some of the key players in the courtroom: the federal prosecutors who spent years building their case against Wint and the team of public defenders who tried to pin the blame on other suspects.

All music featured in "22 Hours: An American Nightmare" is licensed through Creative Commons and/or by permission of the artist. We're grateful to all the artists whose music has helped us tell this story. “Haters Hate” by Ramone Messam, used with permission of the artist; “Procession” by Puddle of Infinity, available in the YouTube Audio Library; “Rhythmic Pulse,” “Marimba on the Loose” and “Closing My Eyes for a Moment” by Daniel Birch, and “Weirder” by Drake Stafford, all licensed under Creative Commons by Attribution 4.0 International.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

A 15-year-old girl who chewed through a rope to escape a serial killer.

0:05.0

I used my front teeth to saw on the rope in my mouth.

0:09.0

He's been convicted of murdering two young women, but suspected of many more.

0:15.0

Maybe there's another one in that area.

0:17.0

And now, new leads that could solve these cold cases. They could be a victim that we have

0:23.2

no idea he killed. Stolen voices of Dull Valley breaks the silence on August 19th. Follow us now,

0:34.2

so you don't miss an episode. Thanks for listening to 22 hours, a second look.

0:39.3

As in the four previous episodes, you'll find new content, as part of this re-release, at the end of this episode.

0:45.6

And don't worry, there are no spoilers if you're listening for the first time.

0:49.5

After the show, you'll hear the first part of my conversation with Jack Moore and Julia Ziegler, as we pull back the curtains, so to speak, on how we created this podcast.

0:59.0

We talk about how the podcast came about, how we turned our daily coverage of Darren Wynce

1:04.1

trial into a podcast episode, and what was a non-negotiable for me and Jack before we even

1:09.7

began.

1:11.0

But first, here's episode four.

1:13.5

A murder trial is a play.

1:19.4

Previously, on 22 hours, an American nightmare.

1:22.4

So what would you say?

1:23.4

It's just like fire damage still, the asphalt?

1:25.5

It looks like the asphalt has sort of been melted in a way.

1:28.5

I'm sure that there were many members of the major case squad

1:32.2

that believed that more than one individual was involved.

1:36.2

Investigators quickly look for the quick answer.

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