S4 E4 - The Pizza Crust: A Second Look

American Nightmares

Gamut Podcast Network

True Crime

4.5 • 10.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

This is 22 Hours: A Second Look, where we revisit our original season with host Megan Cloherty. In this episode, we share more of Megan's interview with Abbigail Savopoulos, including memories of her mom and dad, and whose decision it was to send her to boarding school—a decision that may have saved her life. She also talks about the moments after learning her childhood home was on fire, and why she says her life became a whirlwind.

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Original Episode

The Savopoulos house was held in evidence for weeks as crime scene investigators looked for clues. In the end, five pieces of forensic evidence linked Daron Wint to the killings, including a sliver of his DNA on the crust of a pizza that had been delivered to the house while he held the family captive. But was the forensic evidence a slam dunk? This episode is written and produced by reporters Megan Cloherty and Jack Moore. Julia Ziegler is the content adviser.

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0:00.0	A 15-year-old girl who chewed through a rope to escape a serial killer.
0:05.0	I used my front teeth to saw on the rope in my mouth.
0:09.0	He's been convicted of murdering two young women, but suspected of many more.
0:15.0	Maybe there's another one in that area.
0:17.0	And now, new leads that could solve these cold cases.
0:21.8	They could be a victim.
0:22.8	Now we have no idea he killed.
0:26.4	Stolen voices of Dole Valley breaks the silence on August 19th.
0:32.4	Follow us now so you don't miss an episode.
0:36.1	This is 22 hours a second look.
0:38.6	The re-release of our award-winning podcast comes a decade after the killing of Amy, Sava, Philip Sevopoulos, and Vera Figueroa.
0:47.0	In the new content at the end of this episode, you'll hear more of my interview with Abigail Savopoulos.
0:52.2	She shares her special memories of her mom and dad,
0:55.3	and whose decision it was to send her to boarding school, which is why she wasn't home at the time
1:00.3	of the crime. She also talks about the moments after learning her childhood home was on fire,
1:06.5	and why she then says her life became a whirlwind. But first, here's episode four, The Pizza Crust.
1:17.6	Previously, on 22 hours, an American nightmare.
1:21.0	I know it was Amy. I know exactly what time it was.
1:24.2	I am telling you what I remember her wearing and I remember the bag.
1:28.0	She gave us, you know, kind of a theory of how she thinks Darren went, got into the house.
1:33.8	Can you believe in her mind? She said, well, now because of me, this man came inside.
1:40.3	It is being called a major crime scene as homicide investigators examine a house that caught fire in northwest D.C.
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