You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds.

Hello everyone, welcome the Scruffy Podcast. I'm Garthly so I'm sorry if my voice is a little bit muffled

but I'm wearing a face mask because as you can probably guess I'm on the train on the

way to Cardiff Central to pop into the BBC's

brand new shiny building to record this week's pod and this week we have two nicks for

the price of one Nicky Robinson we all know about him, are Nick Williams, now a former

Blues Number 8, just retired, but he's a big man, a big character and he's got a fascinating backstory so let's get on with it. I will always always love you.

You.

You.

Nick, why are we playing this particular song?

Is it the patch tator to play it for me bro?

Oh come on Nick.

Nick he help.

Obviously he's not big on British popular culture because if you grew up in the 90s you'd know the

...