S4 E25 Faith that Moves: Revelations that Begin the Gathering (D&C 37-40)
The Scriptures Are Real
Kerry Muhlestein
4.8 • 540 Ratings
🗓️ 20 April 2025
⏱️ 68 minutes
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In this episode Kerry and Maclane Heward explore sections that are crucial for understanding the rest of Church history. The investigate how the Lord teaches the Saints about Zion and Enoch through the translation of the Bible, and how that prepares them for being called to gather to Kirtland. They discuss how relevant this is to our day. They talk about how necessary it is to have God in our lives, as it was for the Saints in 1831, in order to gather and be protected in turbulent times. They discuss the difficulty they would face in gathering, and how Christ reassures them, and how faith in Christ made the journey possible. They also discuss how relevant this is to our lives. They circle back around to how knowing about Enoch's city helps to inspire faith. They also explore how God is with us and helping us to do what we need to do.
We are grateful for our generous donors, and for our executive producer. B. Fisher. We are also grateful for Launchpad Consulting Studios for producing the podcast, and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for the podcast.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, and welcome to the Scriptures or Real podcast. This is the podcast where we talk about |
| 0:14.1 | elements of the scriptures that have become real to us because we believe that helps us apply |
| 0:17.8 | them to our lives more and draw more power over them, and we need all the help we can get. I'm your host, Kerry Mielstein. And I'm so glad to have with us, my friend and colleague, McLean Heward. Thanks for being with us, McLean. It's so good to be here. Yeah. So McLean, who actually grew up just down the street from where we live, but we're in Utah, so he was in a different ward. But in any case, |
| 0:39.6 | McLean did his undergrad and master's at BYU, did his Ph.D. at Claremont Graduate University, |
| 0:45.3 | and now he teaches for us in the Church History and Doctor Department in the College of Religious |
| 0:50.2 | Education at BYU. He is a fantastic guy, but that's all the boring stuff. |
| 0:55.5 | We're going to let McLean tell you about the more interesting stuff. |
| 0:58.1 | What else should we know about you, McLean? |
| 0:59.6 | Yeah, so I grew up playing sports, and my dad was actually an electrician at BYU. |
| 1:05.4 | So one of the benefits of having your dad have keys to literally every room at BYU |
| 1:10.7 | is you to go see some cool things. |
| 1:12.7 | So I've been in the bell tower where they actually play the bells. |
| 1:18.1 | Oh, cool. |
| 1:18.6 | I've been in the rafters of the Marriott Center. |
| 1:21.2 | I've been kind of in some cool places like that. |
| 1:24.0 | But so just grew up in Aurum and spent time in the foothills riding riding bikes. And now my wife |
| 1:32.8 | and I live in Cedar Hills with five and a half kids. We got one more addition coming in April. |
| 1:40.1 | That is exciting. What's the due date? Do date is April 24th, but it'll come earlier than that. We'll have it through C-section. All right. I had one on April 17th. He should do that day. That is actually the day that is planned. Okay. Yeah. Good. I'll tell my daughter. It's a little bit weird to have a baby born through C-section and you like schedule their |
| 2:03.6 | birthday. |
| 2:04.1 | It feels a little bit like that's not my place to choose their birthday. |
| 2:09.6 | Well, it is now. |
| 2:10.6 | It is now, yeah. |
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