Everybody, what is going on? You know what time it is. You're listening to join the Journey podcast with your host, Emma, daughter.

Thanks for joining. Today, we are reading Isaiah 21 through 26, and I am in the podcast video with faithful watermark member, Kyle Aaron.

Hey, friends.

Kyle, it's good to have you back. Yeah, thanks for having me, Emma. You're so welcome. Your family's been growing. Yep, we got little Josiah. He's about two months old now. So our house is, yeah. Is that number three? Yep, number three. We got Maya, our sweet little girl and Brooks, our son, and then Josiah, our little baby. I love it. And Kyleyle for those who don't know you i know you've been

on the podcast before it's been a few months you shared your testimony last time what is your role

here at watermark yep so my family and i we've been here about two years and that whole time i've

gotten to serve as our one of our men's community directors so again to come alongside some of our single

men's groups caring for them and reminding them come alongside some of our single men's groups,

caring for them and reminding them and helping them just continue to walk with Jesus.

Love it. Praise God. We gave you a prompt today. How do we hold both the promises of judgment and the hope for redemption? As we read Isaiah 21 through 26. Yep. I think a lot of times those two topics, judgment, hope of redemption can really be held against one another.

Like they can't coexist.

It's like you either have judgment or you have hope.

But I think in the gospel and in the scriptures, we get to see that they actually go together

because there's one person who's at the center of both of them. Even in Isaiah 21 to 26,

I think we see that one judgment, God's judgment, pushes people to the Lord. I think we see this

in chapter 24, verses 13 through 15, where after the judgment of jerusalem we get to see that

there's people who lift up their voices they sing for joy over the majesty of the lord they shout from

the west therefore in the east give glory to the lord in the coastlands of the sea they give glory to the

name of the Lord,

the God of Israel. And we see that as a result of judgment, people actually are praising God.

It might take some time. That's right. But they get there. That's right. They're going to get there.

And so God's judgment isn't a purposeless judgment. And it's also not a judgment that is without warrant

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