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🗓️ 23 May 2025
⏱️ 15 minutes
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In today's episode, Wes Butler talks with Watermark members Kyle and Liz Johnson about Job 16-18, where Job makes accusations against God and expresses his deepest laments. Kyle and Liz give us some best practices when walking with someone who is enduring suffering.
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0:00.0 | All right now, if we're honest, reading the Bible consistently can be a challenge, but it's never too late to start and we're in this together. |
0:08.6 | This is the Join the Journey podcast. |
0:12.0 | Thanks for joining. |
0:12.8 | Once again, my name is Wes Butler and the director of care ministries here at Watermark. |
0:17.4 | We are continuing our Join the Journey podcast takeover here with the care ministries. |
0:22.5 | And today I am joined by two really good friends. So Kyle and Liz Johnson. |
0:27.5 | Thanks, Wes. Yeah, thanks, Wes. Thanks for letting us come on. Absolutely. I am so thankful. |
0:32.0 | You guys are here. We're going to be walking through Job 16 through 18 today. But before we jump into the passage, as always, |
0:39.7 | all of the guests of this podcast takeover have been individuals who I've just said are walking |
0:45.1 | through or have walked through Job-like trials and suffering. And just because of the way that |
0:49.5 | the Lord has sustained them and built them up through that, I just want to share them with you, allow them to share their stories in hopes that it might |
0:57.7 | bring comfort to listeners that are out there that are maybe walking through similar things |
1:01.5 | as we read through the book of Job. |
1:03.6 | So I'm going to let you guys just kind of take it away, share a little bit of your story |
1:06.6 | and why I have you in here today, and we'll go from there. |
1:09.5 | Great. |
1:10.5 | Yeah. and why I have you in here today, and we'll go from there. Great. Yeah, so I think I would just start with, we relate with Joe quite a bit. |
1:14.9 | Reading through this book is something that we can personally attach our story to in a way that |
1:21.1 | makes it a lot more than just reading some innocuous story. |
1:25.2 | And so I think for both of us, we have experienced individually a fair |
1:29.6 | amount of trauma in our lives from sexual assault for me to divorce and losing parents, |
1:36.3 | losing grandparents quickly, all kinds of loss prior to marriage. And then coming into marriage, |
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