All right now, if we're honest, reading the Bible consistently can be a challenge, but it's never

too late to start, and we're in this together. This is the Join the Journey podcast.

Thanks for joining. Once again, my name is West Butler. I'm the director of care ministries here at Watermark,

and we are continuing our Care Ministries takeover of the Join the podcast through the Book of Job. And today I am joined by my friend and co-worker

here, Michael Ziegler, who I never call Michael or Ziegler. It's just Zigg today, guys.

You are one of many who do not even know my first name. I had to stumble for a second.

Is that really his first name?

Because I've never called you that.

Yep.

Well, listen, today we are talking about Job 13 through 15 here.

We've just read that on the journey today.

But before we jump into our passage for today, I want to give you guys a chance to hear from

my buddy Zig.

As you know, if you've been listening to the last few days, we've

brought in guests who are just friends of mine who have encouraged me because of the ways that

they have walked through seasons of what I've called Job-like suffering and trials. And so,

Zig, why don't you share a little bit of your story and why we brought you in for this podcast

episode today? If we haven't met in person, please call me Zig next time you see me.

But I've been hanging around Watermark now for about 10 years.

And one of the things that I treasure the most about my time is the way that I've seen the Lord at work in my life,

specifically in just the redemption that I have experienced, but also in the ways that he has

used the people of Watermark to really come alongside and love and serve me. And so about 12 years ago,

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