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🗓️ 1 December 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Allison Mack is arrested in Brooklyn and taken into federal custody, her devotion to NXIVM still unshaken. As she begins house arrest in California, her mother tries desperately to reach her, while prosecutors chip away at her belief system with mounting evidence. Meanwhile, fellow DOS member Lauren Salzman breaks ranks, deciding to testify against Keith Raniere. As Keith’s trial unfolds in a packed Brooklyn courtroom, Allison is forced to confront the reality of what she did—and who she became.
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| 0:50.3 | It's an overcast afternoon in 2018, and Allison Mack is moving house. |
| 0:56.6 | After camping out in Guadalajara for a period, word came down from Nexium higher-ups that she should return to New York. So now Allison is back in her brownstone in Brooklyn Heights, |
| 1:03.1 | surrounded by boxes. It's the same apartment that Vanessa Gregoriatis met Allison at just a few |
| 1:10.2 | months prior. Vanessa was the reporter |
| 1:12.9 | Nexium authorized Allison to speak with when they were in damaged control mode. She's also our |
| 1:19.0 | executive producer on this show. When Vanessa spoke with Allison, the apartment had been bare, |
| 1:25.9 | because Allison was still making the move down from Albany. |
| 1:29.3 | Now it's in complete disarray, stuffed to the gills with all the things Allison needs to unpack. |
| 1:35.9 | And Allison is carrying on as if everything's normal, as if her guru, Keith Reneery, hasn't just been arrested. |
| 1:46.0 | I was like looking around my place and I was like, okay, okay, it's pretty bad, but, like, we'll start figuring it out. |
| 1:52.6 | And then Nikki walked in my door with two guys behind her. |
| 1:57.8 | That's Nikki Klein, the Canadian actress, another first-line DOS member, and the woman |
| 2:03.2 | Allison is legally married to at this point. |
| 2:06.4 | And she mouthed to me, they're going to arrest you. |
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