S3 Lemn Sissay: ‘I only knew the importance of family by not having it’

How Do You Cope? …with Elis and John

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Personal Journals, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

5 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2022

⏱️ 86 minutes

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This week Elis and John are joined by poet and broadcaster Lemn Sissay to discuss growing up in the care system and the journey to his identity. This episode contains strong language. Details of organisations that can provide help and support on some of the issues raised in this episode or the rest of the series are available at bbc.co.uk/actionline.

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0:00.0	BBC sounds, music, radio, podcasts.
0:04.7	BBC Five Live.
0:06.6	How do you cope with Ellis James and John Robbins?
0:11.7	Hello and welcome to How Do You Corp with Ellis and John.
0:13.8	This is a series where we speak to guests
0:15.8	about some of the challenges they face throughout their lives
0:18.2	and what they've done to overcome.
0:20.0	In this episode, we speak to poet, author and broadcaster,
0:22.7	Lem Sissay about his experiences growing up
0:25.4	in the care system and the journey
0:26.9	to him finding his identity.
0:29.5	But before we move into our chat with Lem,
0:31.8	Ellis, how are you, mate? How's your shame?
0:33.8	Not about, bit tired.
0:35.5	Recorded a lot of podcasts and stuff this week.
0:38.6	And this is a very, very niche, housey shame.
0:42.1	But occasionally, when you do a lawful order talking,
0:44.7	after a while, it wouldn't be human not to think,
0:46.6	am I interesting as this gut?
0:48.2	Mm-hmm. I've talked a lot.
0:50.4	Yes.
0:51.7	And I wonder if other, I don't know,
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