S3 Guvna B: ‘The toxic view of masculinity shouldn’t stop you from talking’

How Do You Cope? …with Elis and John

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Personal Journals, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

5 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2022

⏱️ 68 minutes

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In this episode Elis and John are joined by rapper and author Guvna B to discuss toxic masculinity, his experience with counselling and how it’s helped him deal with grief. This episode contains strong language. Details of organisations that can provide help and support on some of the issues raised in this episode or the rest of the series are available at bbc.co.uk/actionline.

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0:00.0	BBC sounds, music, radio, podcasts, BBC 5 Live.
0:06.6	How do you cope with Ellis and John?
0:10.8	Hello everyone and welcome to How Do You cope with Ellis and John.
0:14.4	This is the series where we speak to different guests about challenges they face throughout
0:18.4	their lives and what they've done to cope with them or overcome them.
0:22.7	I'm joined by Ellis as always in the introduction to this show but Ellis is far from me and
0:28.2	my heart aches for him because he is in isolation.
0:33.2	So actually my heart is glad that he's not near me because he is infectious but also
0:39.5	is very sad not to have my little steed next to my hooves.
0:44.6	Not your steed.
0:46.1	I don't know what that means by that.
0:48.0	Ellis, how are you doing man?
0:49.7	How's your shame?
0:50.5	Big shame change in LSHQ.
0:53.1	There is a lot of guilt because...
0:56.4	Well, it's too pronged guilty because I was meant to work in Spain this weekend.
1:01.4	I was meant to fly it after the show and as you got Covid last week and we did a very
1:06.6	good job of isolating from her and then somehow our children got it, even though we'd
1:12.9	be isolating, they got it the start of the week and for the first three days I was still
1:17.6	tested negative and I was beginning to think that I was a sort of special human being
1:21.2	who was indestructible and then I tested positive the day before I was going to fly out.
1:25.3	So obviously that's been cancelled.
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