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The Storyteller: Naked Villainy

S3 Ep37: Naked Villainy Bonus Gary Winter

The Storyteller: Naked Villainy

Isla Traquair

True Crime

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

This is part one of a three part interview with now retired Detective Inspector Gary Winter - the man responsible for getting the case to court. He reveals the huge effort it took to get the Crown and Procurator Fiscal Service to agree to move the case forward. In the second and third parts of his interview you will hear so much more about what was not said in court, evidence that couldn't be heard due to witnesses dying, more about Kit's actions after the murder and his frustration that it took 45 years to get to court. To hear the full three parts and many more in depth interviews, photos of the scene, people involved, locations, maps, court documents and analysis, join the Patreon below.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

What you're about to hear is part one of a three-part interview with one of the most important people in this case.

0:07.0

I encourage you to sign on to the Patreon to hear the next two parts and the full story of how this case came to court, lots of pieces of the puzzle which weren't

0:16.3

heard during the trial and much, much more. There are more than 40 bonus episodes to access

0:22.1

by signing on, plus photographs of the scene locations people,

0:26.7

court documents and much more. I'll put the details of how to access this in the show notes.

0:35.0

Hello and welcome to this special bonus episode of the storyteller, naked villainy,

0:40.0

and this is the interview you've been waiting for. This is the man who can bring the whole thing together,

0:46.6

the jigsaw puzzle, including some missing pieces. And that is Gary Winter. He did not give evidence in court, but he is the detective inspector,

0:57.0

recently retired, who oversaw this case and was responsible for taking it to the crown office,

1:09.1

to argue why they should arrest Kit Harrison and interview him with the hope of charging him with Brenda's murder.

1:17.0

This was not an easy task. It had been rejected more than once in the past and over four decades, despite a lot of evidence and the new scientific findings confirming their suspicion that they'd had from day one, in fact hours after

1:26.1

her body was found. And that was that Kit Harrison had murdered Brennepage. Having recently

1:32.0

retired, Gary didn't need to do this interview, but he did,

1:37.0

and I'm certain you'll be hanging off as every word.

1:40.0

This is the full story, this is the behind the scenes, and you will learn so much more.

1:47.0

It is very long, it is thorough, it is split up into three parts so that your brain has time to absorb it all.

1:55.9

You will hear what happens in the run up to the murder and after, the things that weren't

2:02.1

heard in court, the escalation the triggers from

2:04.8

rage to murder. Gary has possibly the greatest overview of this case because he's

2:11.4

had sight of thousands of statements which the majority

2:15.5

were not heard due to either the person being dead or they simply would never

2:19.8

get through them all. You'll also hear about the power and control wheel of course of

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