Hello and welcome to the scriptures a real podcast.

This is the podcast where we talk about elements of the scriptures that help them become more real to us because we believe that helps us apply them to our lives more and draw more power out of them and we need need all the help we can get. I'm your host, Kerry Mielstein, and I'm so grateful

today to have as my guest, I guess we would call you a General Authority Emeritus Elder

Dennis B. Noyenshwander. So thank you for joining us. Thank you very much. Let me tell everyone a little bit about Elin

Schwander, who was an academic for a long time. I think you did your PhD at Syracuse

University in Eastern languages, Eastern European languages. Is that? Russian literature, yes.

Russian literature, okay.

And then taught in various places, but then was called into full-time, well, I think

you served a mission as a mission president.

Well, I'll ask you to tell us more about that.

You served in all sorts of Eastern European things, including an area president and so on,

and then have been a patriarch.

I mean, just I should stop talking and let you tell us about these wonderful opportunities

you've had and about your family.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you very much.

I did finish at Syracuse University and had opportunity to teach a year, the U and the Y one

year and then became involved with the family history, genealogical department at the time gathering

genealogical sources out of Eastern Europe. We had a chance to live in Germany at the time

for a number of years, five years actually, traveling into Eastern Europe and gathering these records.

And that's really, Eastern Europe has been so much a part of my life.

Following that, I was called as a mission president over what was called the Austria-Vienna East Mission,

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