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Break in the Case

S3 E5: New York Zodiac Copycat: Only Orion Can Stop the Zodiac

Break in the Case

New York Citiy Police Department

True Crime

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2023

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

After an East New York man is arrested in the 75th Precinct for attempted murder, the evidence connects him to more sinister crimes.

Transcript

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0:00.0

When I first saw the letter and I first recognized the handwriting, a very calm feeling came

0:06.4

over me.

0:07.4

That's Retire Deputy Chief Joseph Herbert.

0:10.0

On June 18, 1996, he was a detective sergeant working at Brooklyn North Homicide when he

0:16.7

was called to his very first hostage job.

0:20.0

For three hours, he stood behind a bulletproof barrier and led negotiations with an agitated,

0:25.8

heavily armed man.

0:27.4

The man had surrendered.

0:29.0

Now, in a mind-boggling turn of events, Herbert was reading the man's confession and his

0:34.4

handwriting looked like the squirrel of the serial killer who had evaded police for six

0:40.0

years.

0:41.0

All the nights that Herbert had fallen asleep studying the zodiac letters, he never could

0:45.8

have dreamed this up.

0:47.7

The handwriting in the confession was so familiar to him, he said that it was like seeing

0:52.2

his wife's shopping list.

0:54.0

There was a tinge of excitement because I knew Adam.

0:56.9

But I also knew, me saying he's the zodiac doesn't mean nothing.

1:00.6

I have to prove he's the zodiac.

1:07.0

I'm Retire Detective Sergeant Wally Zients and you're listening to Break in the Case, a

1:12.1

true crime podcast written and produced by the New York City Police Department and supported

1:17.3

by the New York City Police Foundation.

1:20.2

In the previous episode, an Easter York man named Herberto Eddie Seda is arrested for the

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