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Break in the Case

S3 E4: New York Zodiac Copycat: East New York Chaos

Break in the Case

New York Citiy Police Department

True Crime

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2023

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

One day in June, 1996, a 911 call leads to a shootout and a hostage situation. Detective Sergeant Joseph Herbert is called to his very first hostage job. And then, the unthinkable happens. True to the precinct motto, “Everything happens in the 75,” it all goes down in the 75th Precinct in East New York, Brooklyn.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence. Please be advised.

0:10.4

Talk to any police officer from New York 75th Precent in East New York, Brooklyn,

0:15.2

retired or on the job. Chances are, you'll hear this.

0:19.6

There was a saying in the 75. If it's going to happen, it's going to happen here.

0:23.5

Everything happens in the 75. You need to start Sarah and Sarah.

0:26.6

I'm retired Detective Sergeant Wally Zients and you're listening to Break in the Case,

0:33.6

a true crime podcast written and produced by the New York City Police Department and supported

0:39.0

by the New York City Police Foundation. In the previous episode, after four years of silence,

0:45.2

the New York Zodiac strikes again. Then, Zodiac goes quiet. Until one day, the unthinkable happens.

0:53.7

And yes, it all went down in East New York, Brooklyn.

0:58.2

This is the New York Zodiac Copycat episode four, East New York chaos coming up after the break.

1:10.7

I was police officer Dale Schultz and I was assigned to C-POP, which is a community police

1:16.7

and unit and I was on a bike from 1991 to 1997 in the 75 precinct in East New York.

1:23.8

That's retired Detective Dale Schultz. He spent the last 21 years of his career in the emergency

1:30.3

service unit, but he spent his first six years on the job in East New York, Brooklyn.

1:36.1

It worked out really good being on the bike, so I wasn't just walking out. I could get places faster.

1:41.7

I could also turn corners faster and see active crimes going down.

1:46.7

As a rookie cop, there was no place he'd rather be than East New York.

1:51.2

You had to become street smart. You had to learn how to talk to people.

1:54.3

If you didn't have that mentality about you as a cop working in East New York, they'd eat you up.

1:59.8

You know, street guys knew they knew that you were new. It was always a test in the beginning.

2:04.8

Schultz earned his street smart soon enough.

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