Boxer turned bouncer Viv Graham was one of the northeast most notorious hard men.

It was huge, you were strong, we could take anybody out.

Not many men on earth could match Viv Graham.

But his life of violence led to his downfall.

Why did it happen?

Why did they do that?

How did Viv Graham build an empire?

It was the power, the presence, the aura.

And who was he, really?

Gangster, the story of Viv Graham.

Listen first on BBC Sounds. Hi folks it's the Scrum Fight podcast I'm Garthreeso and Nicki Robinson is here as is a

familiar voice to those of you who are listening during the World Cup dailies is

Tom Fordice the BBC's chief sports writer. You may know him from the Peter

Crouch podcast. You're the one who's not Peter Crouch or the one on radio one, yeah?

That's me. It's nice to be back. Last time we spoke we were in

Yoko'am, weren't we? It was after the World Cup final. It was it was under different

vibes. Yeah and you got a hat on now in a big thick coat before we probably

I was in short of that day. Yeah and today we're in a gym just behind the presser room where we've just listened to Eddie Jones

Post March England have won by 33 points to 30 let's start with England. They won, fair to say Nicky comfortably in the end?

Yeah, I think, I see the down to 13 men Wales scored two tries, the one lot final play of the game, which was a really well worked

try actually, but that didn't really reflect probably the distance, the gap between the two sides.

I think England were, Wales were always chasing the game. You always felt as if they that tried

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