Boxer turned bouncer Viv Graham was one of the northeast most notorious hard men.

It was huge, you were strong, we could take anybody out.

Not many men on earth could match Viv Graham.

But his life of violence led to his downfall.

Why did it happen?

Why did they do that?

How did Viv Graham build an empire?

It was the power, the presence, the aura. And who was he, really?

Gangster, the story of Viv Graham.

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You're listening to BBC Sounds. Hello everyone. It's the Scrum 5 podcast at the Vale Hotel Team Selection Day

and Wales have made some changes ahead of the well I use this phrase sparingly

Garth Charles the big one this is the big one is it the big one I suppose to support

as it is yeah in terms of the six nations having lost two then

in one sense no but it's massive for Wayne Pivac as well because lose three in a row

and it doesn't look good because that never happened under

the war on Gatland. So making those kind of comparisons is totally unfair. It is

bedding in process if you like for Wales so it's important that they

turn up compete and even if they don't win that they aren't on the wrong side of

a heavy beating. Oh well that's really put a bit of a downer on my mood. I mean you're already talking about you know best case scenario got it?

Yeah I think it is the way the way things have panned out.

Yes, because of all the injuries,

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