S204: The Taker

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Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.7 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2018

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Karl comes from a long line of con men. He says both his grandfather and father were swindlers. It's only natural that Karl slipped into the family business. In today's episode, Karl talks about bribing corrupt company building managers. He says he sold them cheap light bulbs, trash can liners, and cleaning supplies at a premium price. In exchange for buying overpriced products, Karl would send these building managers gifts and cash. He made lots of money working as a B2B telemarketer. He eventually started his own company doing the same scheme. Karl admits that what he was doing was unethical, but surely it wasn't illegal. Finally, he got his answer when the FBI and the Postal Inspector's office showed with a subpoena. Jerri Williams, the FBI agent who busted him, says she could have locked him up right then and there—but she had bigger plans for Karl. ---- Special thanks to Jerri Williams for contributing her episode titled, "Karl LNU." This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva and Jerri Williams. Subscribe to Pretend Radio: Apple Podcasts: tiny.cc/PretendApplePodcast Google Play: tiny.cc/PretendGooglePlay http://jerriwilliams.com/cooperating-witness-telemarketing-fraud/ You can learn more about Jerri Williams at jerriwilliams.com --- This episode includes promos from the following independent podcasts: -Maurer Glass Podcast -The Breakers Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:35.6	Um, how do you Americans say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree?
0:46.0	My grandfather was from Sicily he ran with Al Capone and he ended up doing 30 years in Alcatraz.
0:54.0	And I'm talking murder, kidnapping, you know, things on that nature, the things that Al Capone and the mom did.
1:00.0	The man you're listening to, his name is Carl. My father was raised by this man. So my father, he learned very quickly how to spot the scan. And what I mean by that I remember back in the 70s and we were
1:18.0	young my dad had a dating service and it was called
1:22.8	called a dating game.
1:24.0	And what he would do is he would place these ads
1:27.0	and he would look for people no different than what today is catfishing.
1:32.0	My father would take advantage of people's loneliness by putting these
1:35.8	ads and saying if you're a guy you're going to meet a girl you're going to fall in love, she's
1:39.6	going to be beautiful, she's going to be great, and if it was a girl you're going to have
1:42.2	the husband you always want it.
1:44.0	According to Carl, these were not always real women looking for love.
1:49.0	He would send the secretaries in the office. I mean to him he was running a dating service but he
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