I'm Molly Wansall and I'm Geoffrey Wansel and for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder

and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called blood ties.

Hi everyone welcome back to the blood ties podcast I'm Molly Wansall and I'm here with my father, Jeffrey Wansall.

Hello, welcome back. It's wonderful to have you. Please do send us lots of feedback. We're longing to hear from you and we're very excited about it all.

It's difficult always to know quite what to say when we start,

but it's such fun and such a privilege to do this podcast,

and we do hope you like it.

Yeah, I don't think you can say anything better than that to start off.

Do you have any big new, anything?

Oh, you've been busy, Dad. I have. I seem to be up to my off. Do you have any big new, anything? Oh, you've been busy, Dad.

I have.

I seem to be up to my neck in true crime.

I did a very exciting series for CBS Reality last week,

which is going to be called Murder by the Sea.

And we made 12 episodes or on the brink of finishing 12 episodes and I'm doing some

more with the world's most evil killers tomorrow and the next day I just seem to be a wash

with murderers.

Oh wash with murderers, that's true. I was watching, I started looking at CBS reality so I could see what it will be like.

I've been watching them trail. What's that man's name? Donald McIntyre. Don McIntyre. Don McIntyre has been trailing his show.

It's quite an aggressive and juttery start. So I felt maybe yours would be sort of more slightly less jostrary and

aggressive well I think I'm gonna put it different style a slightly different style and

also I believe that you need to involve the audience you need to keep the magic you

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