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Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

S2 Ep58: S2:E58 Follow-Up

Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Bob Ruff

Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.57.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2019

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Bob answers listener questions after returning to the Ed Ates case in Sunday's episode to interview Innocence Project of Texas Attorney Allison Clayton for an update on his case. 

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0:00.0

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0:30.0

Hello everybody and welcome back to Truth and Justice. This is your Friday follow-up episode

0:49.3

for season two, episode 58, where Bob brought on Ed Aits attorney, Alison Clayton, to discuss

0:55.0

recent developments in his case. Now we got a lot of feedback from listeners of voicemail,

0:59.9

some emails and a lot from our fan page, so let's get right into the questions. Sounds good Mike.

1:14.8

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1:20.3

You can't hide those indications and that's why yesterday I knew that you did it. But now,

1:24.9

shocking interrogation tapes reveal how the Super Cup really operates. And that's why they ask me to come in

1:30.8

because I'm special. From something else, the Marshall project and Sony Music Entertainment,

1:35.2

this is Smoke Screen. Just say you're sorry. Listen and follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

1:41.6

Amazon Music, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcast. All right Mike, let's get started with a

1:46.9

voicemail from Julia. Hey Bob and Mike, this is Julia. First of all, thank you to you guys

1:54.8

and to Alison for that great interview that aired today. I'm still a little bit obsessed with

1:59.8

that case and I'd love to see it solved properly. Anyway, I've been meaning to ask you this for a

2:05.2

while and following that up on Ed, this is kind of a perfect time. Bob, you and I met in

2:10.8

Tyler during the Curly Cooksian religions. And at the time, you were definitely ready to

2:16.4

just burn, smith County Justice to the ground. You were done with it. And at the time David Dobbs

2:22.3

was kind of our big villain in the eighties. But now it sounds like things have turned around in

2:28.0

terms of their cooperation in smith County. So my question is, do you think that you initially

2:35.5

judged the DA office too harshly at that time or has there been a culture shift that brings

2:42.2

smith County? Or at this point, it's Ed's case just so compelling that even DAs who are formerly,

2:49.2

let's say, unhelpful, can see that some sort of miscarriage of justice has happened because of

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