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I'm Molly Wansall. And I'm Jeffrey Wansel. And for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called blood ties.

Hi everyone welcome back to the Blood Ties podcast.

I am Molly Wansel and I'm here with my father, Jeffrey Wansel.

Welcome back, everyone.

Thank you for listening and thank you for being so enthusiastic.

I'm deeply touched.

We have 22 5-star reviews.

Do we have 22 5-star reviews?

Yes, we do.

Oh, Dad, that's great. I'm not entirely sure why, but that's very good news all round. And I got an email today from one of the, you know, many publishers that I deal with,

saying, oh, your podcast is absolutely wonderful.

Would you like to do?

Would you like to have an ex-author or Y author?

And in fact, one of them I thought was interesting.

It's a woman called Amy Lloyd who wrote a book called The Innocent Wife,

which actually I think we mentioned in an earlier podcast about a woman, an English woman,

who falls in love with an American serial killer.

Oh, I think we did talk about that.

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