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LOVERS by shan

S2 Ep138: How Jemele Hill is Fighting Back Against America’s #1 Sex Life Killers

LOVERS by shan

LOVERS by shan

Sexuality, Society & Culture, Relationships, Health & Fitness

55.5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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What happens when you realize the best sex of your marriage only shows up on vacation?

Award-winning journalist, author, and podcaster Jemele Hill joins Shan for a conversation about how she uncovered the connection between stress, rest, and desire in her own marriage. She shares why her husband seems to get luckier when they’re away, how that awareness has deepened their relationship, and what it taught her about the balance between ambition, partnership, and intimacy.

This episode is for my overachievers who struggle to “do it all,” for the happily partnered (or hoping-to-be), and for anyone who’s ever wondered how to bring that vacation spark back home.

Together, Jemele and Shan break down:
- Why “having it all” is a myth (and the price women pay for chasing it)
- How silence around stress robs intimacy, and what to do instead
- What “fair trade” in the home has to do with mutually desirable sex
- Practical ways to bring vacation sex energy into everyday life

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Being overwhelmed is a labial killer.

0:05.0

I can imagine too, based on the work that you do,

0:07.0

you're right, it's about the type of work that I do.

0:10.0

If I keep it up at this pace, I'm gonna be burnt out and burnt down,

0:14.0

and I would be of no use to this man that I love

0:18.0

because this is going to really dramatically impact the foundation and

0:23.4

everything that we built. And this is like sort of probably the battle cry of a black woman

0:27.8

is that we have just been conditioned to just keep on moving. And it's like, no, sometimes that's

0:32.9

really not good. Where is the decompressed? There literally isn't one. Welcome to Mill Hill. Groundbreaking

0:38.8

voice in sports media, acclaimed author of Uphill, a memoir. Award-winning journalist and writer

0:43.8

for the Atlantic, an outspoken activist. Ninety-nine percent of my vacations are out of the country.

0:49.0

I need the full disconnect. When I started to see the difference in just my moods, it became an active intentionality.

0:56.0

It's like, how can I bring vacation sex to a Wednesday?

0:59.0

When I tell you that sex was, that sex was sexing, okay?

1:03.0

And I'm like, who am I right now?

1:06.0

But do you think that there's a direct correlation between the pleasure you can receive and the mindset that you're in?

1:11.5

You saying that just made me have an aha moment because I actually never, what do you got?

1:18.4

Green, mint. I do mint. Mint? Yeah. Okay. It's a good choice. So you just came back from this

1:23.3

great vacation. What is something that's calling you to talk about, specifically teach about,

1:27.9

but just share about?

1:28.9

I think what I would love to sort of teach people about is how to declutter, to create

1:34.2

better intimacy.

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