Hey, friends. Welcome back to another episode of The Origin Around. I guess today is the one and only Lee Strobel, who is a former investigative journalist,

former atheist, turned Christian, documented through his very well-known book, A Case for Christ.

He's written many books since then, including the About to Be Released book called Is God Real Exploring the Ultimate Question of Life,

where he deals with some of the challenges to the Christian faith, both on a philosophical, theological,

and one might say a personal or relational level, like if God is good and can stop bad things from happening to people,

why doesn't he do that? We get into other questions around the significance of intelligent design,

or in more specifically DNA, what that says about the possibility that God is the author of creation rather than not God being the author of creation.

We get into lots of other questions that he deals with in his book, so I had a really wonderful time talking to Lee, very intelligent guy,

but I just really enjoyed how raw and real and down-the-earth he was, and I think you're going to really enjoy this engaging conversation.

So please welcome to the show for the first time, the one or only, Lee Strobel.

Lee, thanks so much for coming on Theology and the Rock.

I'm glad to be with you. I'm glad I finally get to meet you. My son is a big fan of yours,

and I know you both went to Aberdeen to get your PhDs, and I've been looking forward to connecting.

I remember when Kyle showed up to Aberdeen, the word on the street was, dude, I think Lee Strobel's kid is studying here.

I'm like, no way. This is like famous. And then now, as I offline, you know, I said, wow, it's really good to talk with Kyle's dad.

So I don't know if you enjoy being Kyle's dad, or if you enjoy being Lee Strobel's kid, but either way, you both are doing great work.

I know as you don't know who Lee Strobel is, can you give it a little backstory?

And I would love to, as it pertains, especially to your atheist, and then I had a very interesting, I'll say a conversion journey.

Give us the backstory there.

Sure. I was trained in journalism and law. I was an atheist. I was a legal editor of the Chicago Tribune.

So I was covering major trials around the country, screen court decisions, things like that.

And my wife was agnostic, spiritually kind of confused. And she met a woman who was a nurse and a Christian, a neighbor.

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