Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. We've got a double-headed

today in segment two. It's Congresswoman Melanie Stansbury from New Mexico. I've been digging

her lately. So stick around for that. But first, he's a stamp writer at the Atlantic. He wrote a

profile recently of J.D. Vance called the Talented Mr. Vance. Welcomeing back, George Packer. How you doing,

George? And well, how are you, Tim? I'm doing pretty good, all things considered. Personally,

that's how I have to put it these days. I'm personally well. Personally, great. Everything is good.

School's out. Kids happy. I'm in Chicago. We're taping a live show with Adam Kinsinger tonight that

everybody will be able to listen to tomorrow. It's cold as balls in

Chicago. So interpersonally, that's my only real complaint right now. Okay. And mine is that the New York

City schools don't let out until mid June. Oh man. Well, no, that's a win. I would trade you.

I could use two weeks, two more weeks of school. I guess it's not me. It's my husband that's doing the parenting. There's wins and losses. Yeah. All right.

I guess if I had one more complaint, it's that both these NBA conference finals are looking

like they're going to be kind of boring. So anyway, all right. That's all you. Wait a minute. Wait a

minute. You mean small market teams because they are really exciting teams to watch. Oh, they're great.

They're great to watch.

They're kind of corny and shy flops around a lot.

Shea flops around a lot.

But I meant more like, this Pacer's Knicks series is so fun.

I wanted seven games.

I'm annoyed that it might be ending close sooner than I'd wished.

But alas, you never know.

Maybe the Knicks will do a miracle comeback. It's

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