You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds.

You're listening to BBC Sounds. So this is going to be a part two. This is twice in a week. It's good. We're going to spend a couple of days with each other next week. So, uh gonna be a bit too much you think well it could be

but the end of it it could be a little bit so between now and Sunday no contact yeah

oh zero contact yeah zero contact let's not do it let's not talk let's not do it, let's not talk, let's not.

Who am I with Jiffy and Warby?

There you go, you talk to those boys,

to the real boys.

All your mates.

Invers and all.

You got real present.

Pick those names up.

None of them have got, they can't even know a little torch to you.

They can't even hold a coffee.

I'll go you some French.

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