S2:185 2 Samuel 23 - 24

Join The Journey

Watermark Community Church, Dallas, TX

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Christian, Bible, Devotional

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🗓️ 22 September 2023

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Can God cause harm? Can he “relent”? And can people, like David in this passage, plea to take the harm of others? How does harm, wrath, ownership of sin, punishment, and conditional and unconditional responses all collide? In today’s podcast, Emma Dotter dives head—first into two deep questions seen in 2 Samuel 24.

Does God change his mind: https://www.gotquestions.org/God-change-mind.html

Additional Scriptures in the podcast:
1 Chronicles 21:1, David taking a census
Job1-2, God allowing Satan to tempt Job
Acts 2,
2 Corinthians 12:7, “Messenger of Satan to harass me,”
Exodus 30, Census Tax
Numbers 1, Census of Israel’s Warriors
Malachi 3:6, “I, the Lord do not change…”
James 1:17, “With whom there is no variation of shadow due to change…”
Numbers 23:19, “Or a son of man, that he should change his mind…”
Genesis 6:6, “And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart.”

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Reading our Bibles regularly can be a challenge, but we're all on this journey together.
0:05.8	We're praying that this podcast inspires you, helps you better understand God's word, and builds your faith.
0:12.2	This is Join the Journey with your host, Emma Daughter.
0:17.3	Thanks for joining. Today, we're reading 2nd Samuel 23 and 24, and we're answering two very specific questions. Number one, 2nd Samuel 24-1 in the NLT reads, once again, the anger of the Lord burned against Israel, and he caused David to harm them by taking a census. Did God really cause harm? Or can God cause harm?
0:42.6	And question number two, which comes from chapter 24, verses 16 and 17, let me read them.
0:47.8	But as the angel was preparing to destroy Jerusalem, the Lord relented and said to the death angel,
0:53.6	stop. That's enough. When David saw the angel,
0:56.7	he said to the Lord, I am the one who has sinned and done wrong. But these people are as innocent as
1:02.0	sheep. What have they done? Let your anger fall against me and my family. What are we to make of the
1:08.8	Lord's wrath on Jerusalem? His relent? Can God change his mind?
1:12.5	And David's plea to take on that wrath. So let's dive right in and start with the first question.
1:18.4	Based on chapter 24, verse 1, did God really cause harm or said differently, can God cause harm?
1:26.5	One commentator begins addressing this question by reminding us that
1:30.1	today's chapter concludes the book of Second Samuel. We're closing a metaphorical door, if you will,
1:35.7	as we are about to move into a new phase of Israel's history. Nonetheless, here we are in chapter 24,
1:42.1	the last chapter of Second Samuel, and the commentator writes.
1:45.3	This last section of the book records another occasion on which God withdrew his blessing
1:50.8	from Israel. This time, because of David's sin. That's really important. This is because of
1:56.7	David's sin. When David stopped trusting in Yahweh for protection and placed his confidence in his
2:02.5	military personnel, God sent a serious disease that killed 70,000 men. Chapter 24 provides a fitting
2:10.6	conclusion to the story of David by calling attention once more and finally, not only to his
2:16.7	ambition and pride, but also to his humility
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