Everybody, what is going on? You know what time it is. You're listening to join the Journey podcast with your host, Emma, daughter.

Thanks for joining. I am in the podcast studio with one of our faithful watermark members, Mr. Craig Wenning.

Hey, everybody. How you doing? Craig, I am glad you're here. We just met literally 10 minutes ago, and I would love to know a little

bit about how you came to know the Lord, and then fast forward what's got up to in your life now.

Yeah, sure. I was one of those people who came up in the church and knew the Lord,

but I would say I had pretty shallow spiritual roots.

So one of my first questions when I meet Jesus

is gonna be was I saved at 13 or in my 20s?

Because my story was marked from going off to college

and I was sort of always the good guy

and the nice guy relative to my friends,

but I would just be less crazy

as they were. And so that moral relativism doesn't work really well on God's standard and it

leads you down pretty dark paths. And so eventually by my 20s, I was chasing pretty hard after

the world and really looked nothing like a believer. And so that led me down just a time when I was basically with friends and just making poor decisions and sort of stepped back and kind of like, who have I become? This is not who I set out to become and really set me on a journey of what do I believe? I grew up in the church, but is that truth? And so I went down a pretty deep apologetics path and ultimately came and really trust in Christ.

So I'd say I probably was saved at a young age,

but I didn't pick up my cross and follow him until my 20s.

And so now fast forward.

I've been walking faithfully with him for 20 plus years,

which dates me a little bit, gives me a little bit hint to my age.

And now three kids.

My wife, Julia, is a rock star.

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