Hello Gary you all right yes I'm well it's it's a really tough on this you know when you

interview people and in all the 40-odd episodes we've done you know there's normally a moment when the actor's in

their pomp and they have a few albums. Maybe it's two, three, maybe four

albums. They're imperial phase. Imperial phase.

No, yes.

But you too have the longest amount of successful records.

And it's been impossible to do what we call research on this.

And to be able to think we can sit down and talk about every record is virtually impossible right

and what's also just incredible is it's the same four guys now as it was then

I know I know I wonder what that know, because they haven't fallen,

we'll have to ask him, but they haven't fallen foul

of all the usual, you know, mistrust, or,

is it distrust or mistrust? I think a bit of both.

Anti-trust as well, but I think that's the actual court case you end up.

I used to fancy mistrust.

Anyway, um, but...

National trust, that trust is more you.

National Treasure, excuse me.

What's kept them together?

That's what's interests, that's what interests me.

I mean, we know that three of them are you know they're very they're

very religious as well you know they were in it spiritual is perhaps a better word

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