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The Open University, the future is open. Oh no mate, mate, so it's your little brother.

I know, I'm a bit nervous.

Why, is he stronger than you?

He used to punch me in the stomach when we were kids.

You know, I was always crying and he was a bully.

Is it going to be like that great thing that Stuart Copeland said when he said

when they had ban therapy is in all those all those years I thought nothing was hitting home

and all of it was.

Every blow was landed.

Yeah, no, we'll bring up, I'll try and embarrass you obviously.

So this is a sort of weird one.

I've got my brother on, but I think this could be really interesting

because you know, you know, just talking about the 70s growing up,

you know, we've got so much.

No, I'm very interested as to what the dynamic is going to be.

If you took a gam up for me, and Martin gonna gamper for you, I'm gonna,

who's interviewing who and you, you know, we just just go oh 80s I imagine what you know

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