Hey guy, how you doing? I'm good. We got another Gary.

Yeah, we have. Yeah, I'm going to get confused now.

This guest, I actually told Billy Corgan that we had Gary Newman and he said, and'll probably don't he said I'm not speaking to you because I will forget he says oh please send my love he's such a wonderful person and a great artist I hope he's doing well and I think you know that's that's the thing about this guy he he's he really he's very very influential

especially incredibly influential yeah and especially more so in the fullness of time.

Yeah, absolutely. And so should we get him on?

Let's get him on.

Welcome to the Rock on Turs.

Okay, guys, I'm ready.

This was great guys.

I, it's so great to talk to two guys that have done this.

But it's a big tune, for sure.

I actually wrote that originally for Tina Turner.

Of course, I had gone and found Johnny Mitchell

band in Florida and brought her back.

You know, what people forget about Bowie is that he was such a kind man.

Remember me?

I'm in a band now.

It's called Roxy Music.

You know this thing about the 10,000 hours of experience?

Oh yeah, they're too.

Get good at something.

When we recorded Arnold Lane, we've done about 50 hours.

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