Welcome to the Standard of Truth podcast, hosted by historian Dr. Garrett Dirkmont,

where we explore the early days of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

and gain rare historical insights into how a young farm boy was able to establish a new church

and grow it by way of visions, manifestations,

and miracles.

Hi, welcome to another episode of the Standard of Truth Podcast. I'm your host Garrett

Dirkmont and I'm joined by my co-host, Richard Leduke.

In this part two, we're going to conclude the discussion around the translation of the place.

So, Garrett, where did you want to pick off from where we left?

Well, there's, I think maybe one thing I wanted to talk a little bit about is that early on, apparently,

anyway, according to the sources we have, even while the translation was going on,

there were people who were trying to provide alternative explanations of where the words were coming from,

right?

I mean, obviously, the people that doubt that it's from God,

they don't really want to say, you know, that their words appearing on it, and this is a translation

from God. At the same time, you know, I will say it's very interesting that when the pages are

lost, when the 116 pages are lost, the Lord tells

us in Doctrine and Covenant Section 10 that the actual plan of those people who stole

the pages is that Joseph would be able to produce the same words again, the exact same words.

Meaning, their plan was that if they stole these pages, they would have to alter the words on them

because Joseph was going to produce the exact same words

which which could only be a miracle i mean even today if you have a highly literate person

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