This podcast, it's a Costerton Touchstone production.

I'm John Curiochard, and I want to welcome you to a brand new podcast.

Deb Drop, as its subtitle says, is going to be about what makes a spy or spies in general

tick.

The first spy we're going to talk about is, well, it's me.

What makes this spy tick?

Like a lot of podcasters, I make several different podcasts.

That's one of the great things about podcasting.

One can do multiple podcasts that speak to different audiences.

And I talk about this subject, spying, in my other podcasts.

But the way we're going to handle the subject in this podcast, it's along the same lines of

describing, or should I say telling

the story of how this spy ticks. For the record, I'd call myself a former spy, but no one who

ever spied for a living is ever truly a former spy. I don't mean that I subscribe to that

false and infuriating slogan, once CIA, always CIA.

I really, really hate that because it's intellectually lazy and it's simply not true.

What I mean is you never lose the tradecraft skills that the CIA teaches you. You always look for

surveillance. You always question whether you're being developed by a foreign intelligence officer. You always look for surveillance. You always question whether you're being

developed by a foreign intelligence officer. You always wonder whether the FBI is looking at you

for whatever reason. Most importantly, this podcast is going to tell you how I tick as a human being.

That's always been a core element of spying, the human element. Though popular culture might imagine

spies lurking silently in the shadows, wearing trench coats, a good spy is actually a people

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