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John Kiriakou's Dead Drop

Costard & Touchstone Productions

Travel, Personal Journals, Torture, Secret Agents, History, Spies, Documentary, Spying, Secrets, Cia, Espionage, Heroism, Society & Culture

4.9 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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THE BLURB: Enjoy this brief preview of "John Kiriakou's Dead Drop: What Makes A Spy Tick" - a brand new podcast that will take you deep inside the mind of one of the best known spies in the whole world: former CIA officer John Kiriakou. You've heard former spies talk about spying, but you've never heard a spy go this deep into a spy's psyche - starting with his own.

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0:00.0	Coming very soon to a podcast provider near you, a deep, deep guide into the world of espionage, spying, and tradecraft, seen through the lens of one of the best-known spots in the whole wide world.
0:17.7	In Dead Drop, his new podcast, former CIA officer John Kiriaku will tell you what makes a spy tick.
0:27.9	And the first spy he'll tell you about on a granular emotional nuts and bolts level is himself.
0:37.1	You never lose the tradecraft skills that the CIA teaches you.
0:40.8	You always look for surveillance.
0:42.7	You always question whether you're being developed by a foreign intelligence officer.
0:47.2	You always wonder whether the FBI is looking at you for whatever reason.
0:51.9	Most importantly, this podcast is going to tell you how I tick as a human being.
0:56.6	That's always been a core element of spying, the human element.
1:00.5	Though popular culture might imagine spies lurking silently in the shadows, wearing trench coats,
1:06.9	a good spy is actually a people person.
1:09.7	The more they can relate to people and get people to relate to them, the more people they'll
1:14.9	be able to spy on or recruit as spies, in essence.
1:18.7	I said to the Archbishop, our family name really is Christodulu, and my grandmother used
1:24.0	to tell me the story that we were descended from a very wealthy man who was very, very
1:29.5	religious. And he owned a lot of land on the island of Platmos, and he traded the land in the 17th century
1:37.8	to the emperor in Constantinople. And in exchange, the emperor gave him the cave where St. John received the
1:48.3	Book of Revelation. And he said, wait a minute, you're talking about Saint Christodoulos. I'm
1:55.0	descended from Saint Christodoulos? He said, that would account for the name Christodulu,
2:02.9	the sons of Christodoulos. And said, that would account for the name Christodulu, the sons of Christodoulos.
2:09.1	And I said, you know, funny thing, my wife is descended from Jesse James, and she's been bragging about it.
2:13.8	I'd rather be descended from a saint. It's because we came from a long line of priests. There was one, my great, greatfather on my mother's mother's side, who was a priest,
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