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Hey, everybody. Welcome to trashy divorces. Everybody's favorite good podcast about bad relationships. I'm Alicia.

My name is Stacey, and we're going to continue the scientist. This is

part two of Carl Sagan's epically trashy journey through science and love. Thanks for joining us today

for the continuation of Carl Sagan's marital misadventure. We left him with wife one,

Lynn Margolis, done and dusted.

And now he's on to wife number two.

Getting there.

Getting there.

I think we have to go, go, go.

All right, Stacey, I think Lynn did well by choosing to exit out of that galaxy.

Full agreement.

Full agreement.

So, yes, where we dropped Carl Sagan off, he had just divorced.

Actually, his wife, Lynn had just divorced him. He complained that this caused him to work fitfully on the Mariner 2 space probe, which went to Venus and was the first

successful mission to another planet. Yeah, let's inhabit lava. That sounds like a good idea.

Sure. Carl Sagan continued working with the government on space projects, but after Kennedy was assassinated

in 1963, he came to realize that under Lyndon Johnson, the American involvement in Vietnam

was going from what he called a bloody impasse to a bloody nightmare.

He would later recall, my realization of what a horror the American involvement in the Vietnam War was,

didn't really hit me until 64, 65, earlier than many, but later than it should have.

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